Last Monday, I had the honor of being invited by US Senator Ron Johnson to engage in a panel discussion held at the American Senate, titled 'Federal Health Agencies and the COVID Cartel: What Are They Hiding?'. Enclosed is the transcript of the brief address I delivered during the event. True to my usual style, I diverged from my prepared remarks during the speech. That’s why I have also included the video recording below. Enjoy!
Mattias! It was an honor to speak alongside you at ICS5 and for the Senate. If you haven't seen it, and for the benefit of your audience if I may, here is the summary for my talk on the vaccines' effectiveness and safety being exaggerated in the clinical trials and observational studies: https://okaythennews.substack.com/p/science-summary-covid-19-vaccines. And my vaccine mandate case is progressing along nicely, thinking there'll be a lot more to report by the time ICS6 comes around! Maybe then we can finally solve free will vs determinism ;)
I find that I can edit my posts only if someone likes and/or comments on it and I get an email notification. Then I go to "view post" and I get an ellipsis that includes 'edit'. But on substack, itself, that option is not there. Perhaps my "settings" are lacking...or my browser. ???
I may be way off the mark here, but for a decade or 3 I have viewed neck ties as symbols of leashes put around the necks of men, as leashes put there by the elite, cabal, Illuminati, what have you, to keep the 'intellectualists' in control of the narrative dictated by the elite. Why? For 6 million years, some scientists think human DNA has been around, or 3 million years dating back to Lucy of Ethiopia, or even 200,000 years since homo sapiens sapiens have been around, we never wore neck ties. Neck ties are not worn by productive people turning the gears of productivity on the planet. Only by the 'Big shots' that the productive people can do without. Of course, some folks like Mattias Desmet, whose ideas I fully support, do it out of societal habit to 'fit in'. But if there was ever a time to not 'fit in', that time is now.
Thanks for sending the link. It was very revealing and mind boggling. I have heard him speak on various panels but had not heard the entirety of was he had to say. Dr. Risch, who spoke at the Senator Johnson forum last week, said that he believed the virus was released for the reasons Mr Martin stated. A crime against humanity. Who will pay?
Glad if the link was helpful. Appreciate your feedback ~ and I agree completely about all the reprehensible crimes. Hard to imagine the scope and scale of the damage done, not to mention the additional constraints on our freedoms that may lie ahead.
Mattias Desmet, regarding totalitarianism and the Capitol.... What happened some years ago in the Capitol at the instigation of Trump (a fine example of leaders who surf along on the waves of what is alive among the followers, themselves getting blindsided and amplifying the waves), and what might now be a fine and justified illustration of part of your theories, was always a glaring omission in your book.
Perhaps in hindsight this is not so remarkable when we now also see that you allow yourself to be used by the same kind of people. Are you also surfing these waves now?
It is not money, but the need to publish papers, and to demonstrate things experimentally which is very hard to do at times, which largely drives replication crisis in psychology in my opinion.
.. the words for better understanding .. are the same as at the very beginning of the evolution of speech .. poetry .. the connection between senses .. and awareness ..
Prof. Desmet, can I please ask with the greatest respect:
Is it possible that your theory around "mass formation" has gained so much publicity in recent years at least partially due to the fact that it serves a certain objective you may not have considered and more specifically: potentially serving as a 'legal out' of sort for politicians and 'public health' officials when the special tribunals and genocide/crimes against humanity charges are laid?
There have been plenty of dissenting voices from the very beginning but they were aggressively silenced...including by one of the people sitting right next to you at that table.
Yes, I think that is one of the dangers of emphasizing this aspect of the Corona crisis. This is the problem at heart of the issue between Breggins and Dr. Desmet.
Mass formation is one aspect, but one must also pay attention to the myriad connections, tricks and the profit involved in this disaster. One must pay attention to the sorry state the level of trust and transparency which modern societies have reached due technological and technical advances in manipulation techniques.
I have tried to reach out to Dr. Desmet to discuss this issue one way or the other, but so far I have not received a response, which is quite understandable, since he is a very busy man and I am nobody. In one way, what Dr. Desmet is saying is more important than any such analysis, and in some ways, it is much less important than that.
This is a concern that he addresses in his book and elsewhere. What makes the difference between those in the mass and those not in the mass per Mattias? One chooses to lie and the other does not. There is an ethical component and each person makes a decision. He has outlined this countless times.
The “legal out” position is certainly clever. Diabolical even. And that’s a fair point about “one of the people,” if I take your meaning. I’m not aware, but did the person take and promote the jab before speaking out against it? How should we respond to people who are guilty of judgment errors—if they are that—repent, and then commit to preventing others from making similar errors? Might an additional damage-by-influencer penalty due?
What an incredibly insightful & appropriate quote from Hannah Arendt to end another brilliant speech at our Senate. Bravo!
The delusional, if not evil, concept of a utopian paradise is often portrayed as a perfect society where everyone is blissfully content, every need is effortlessly met, and one is free from suffering. This hellish paradise of absolute perfection, where individuality fades into oblivion, produces human stagnation that smothers the soul in untold suffering, all under the oppressive control of a dear leader. The new breed of technocrats. In this suspiciously hellish paradise, there's an absence of choice, accountability, and the potential for growth, despite the seemingly perfect ideal AI would produce in stunning technicolor.
Perfect hell is a chilling reflection of the very thing we fear most: a world devoid of choice, risk, and the raw beauty of imperfection. In this unsettling parallel, paradise and hell converge, reminding those whose minds are still our own that true authenticity and fulfillment lie not in perfection, but in the messy, unpredictable journey of life.
I suggested to Professor Desmet a short while ago that maybe their should be a competition, then an award given for the best 'Mass Formationist' of all times. Along with this suggesting I offered a video link: https://www.bitchute.com/video/PWPVDzxplie0/ for his ajudication. Mattias hasn't gotten back to me yet, but if anyone here watches this 4:39 minute video, be sure to pipe up.
Thank you for responding. So, you are happy worshiping the religion and bowing down to the tribal god the descendant of the Israelis wrote into existence, the religious tradition and god that is genociding Palestinians at this moment?
I see that I completely misunderstood your intention in your post. I thought you were showing how hordes of people could be convinced to believe a lie. I am a bit mystified as to what message you really meant to portray by that video since it seems to be the opposite of what I understood it as.
I am also not sure how my response to a 4+ minute video of people heiling Hitler, even weeping and seemingly worshipping him, brought on your comment out of the blue when the video had nothing to do with religion or God or Israel.
Firstly, congratulations for watching that video and responding to it. My point in offering that link was to goad Mattias' listeners, hopefully maybe Mattias himself, to question if there is any difference between between a dictatorship such as Stalin's, and the dictatorship of Hitler over the German people. In other words, is it possible that some Mass Formations are good, and some bad.
After a long struggle, Hitler came to power in 1933; he just eeked his way in. In the second election, probably some of the content of the video, Hitler won 98% of the German people's vote. The 'invasion' of Austria was the only 'invasion' Hitler was injured in; he got a bad allergy from all the flowers the Austrian women were throwing at him, maybe even a scratch from a rose or two. He threw the Jews and the Rothschilds (Jews themselves) out of Austria also, and the country immediately began to prosper.
I've been studying all of this for about 5 years now and am convinced that we have been propagandized about Hitler and WWII as bad, if not worse, than we've been propagandized about Covid and the mRNA clot shot. Although there are many very excellent videos, articles and books about the revised history of the WWII era, my favorite is the docuseries Europa: The Last Battle (BitChute). It's a long watch, coming in 10 videos, but I was so intrigued with the issue, I watched the series twice. The upload count on BitChute when I first watched it was in the low hundreds. The upload count is up to 2,700+ today. Others, other than myself, are very intrigued with this subject. I consider this video series to be a million lumen spotlight on the exact source of all our problems today.
For the record, I am convinced that there is more to the “world wars” than we are told, but I am also convinced that Hitler was not a good guy. There are times when both sides are wrong/evil, and I see wwii as a prime example of that. The fact that America and Britain joined with Stalin undermines their credibility and reliability, if there weren’t already enough reasons to be suspicious of those governments. Just because one side is bad doesn’t mean the other side is good.
I do believe in the God who created the heavens and the earth and then Adam and Eve. He is not a tribal God, but the one true God.
The history in the Bible shows that despite Israel’s repeated shortcomings, God is faithful to keep His promises. We all fall short of God’s standard of goodness/righteousness. Thankfully God promised to send Messiah who will one day bring justice to the earth and who will rule from Jerusalem. God’s promises will be fulfilled. There will be justice, peace, and righteousness on this earth. There will be no more death, sorrow, pain.
I recommend two books:
the Bible, translated accurately (The Scriptures, translated by The Institute for Scripture Research is a good choice, as well as The Messianic Writings translated by Daniel Gruber)
The Separation of Church and Faith: Copernicus and the Jews by Daniel Gruber.
You, a Western person, are entrapped and ensnared within the anti-Nature Middle Eastern Abrahamic Matrix. Nature's God and Natural Law is what our Founders gave us, and it is the God and Law the Founding Fighters won this Land of the Free and Home of the Brave with.
I have been following the works of Professor Desmet from his early stages of his presentation on the phenomenon of, “Mass Formation Psychosis.” Best to consider this phenomenon in light of a historical real life experience. How many of you have asked yourself, “ how was it possible for Hitler to rise to power and eventually convince so many to partake in some of the most barbarous acts against mankind ? Draw a parallel between the periods of 1936 to 1939 in Hitler’s Germany and now, from 2020 to 2023 and Covid, Tony Fauci and Francis Collins…. Same modus operandi…
Surely the process has been around since the first used camel salesman came to town. From a position of authority or with a little credibility, deliver a sales pitch with conviction, and somebody will buy whatever’s being sold. Weaponize technology with ignorance or immorality, and some snake oil salesman will commit genocide. Nothing is new under the sun, and caveat emptor has been the bottom line since antiquity.
They killed 22M people in 2021 and 2022 with covid vaccines https://www.walshmedicalmedia.com/open-access/analysis-of-covid19-vaccination-effectiveness.pdf
Mattias! It was an honor to speak alongside you at ICS5 and for the Senate. If you haven't seen it, and for the benefit of your audience if I may, here is the summary for my talk on the vaccines' effectiveness and safety being exaggerated in the clinical trials and observational studies: https://okaythennews.substack.com/p/science-summary-covid-19-vaccines. And my vaccine mandate case is progressing along nicely, thinking there'll be a lot more to report by the time ICS6 comes around! Maybe then we can finally solve free will vs determinism ;)
I find that I can edit my posts only if someone likes and/or comments on it and I get an email notification. Then I go to "view post" and I get an ellipsis that includes 'edit'. But on substack, itself, that option is not there. Perhaps my "settings" are lacking...or my browser. ???
I may be way off the mark here, but for a decade or 3 I have viewed neck ties as symbols of leashes put around the necks of men, as leashes put there by the elite, cabal, Illuminati, what have you, to keep the 'intellectualists' in control of the narrative dictated by the elite. Why? For 6 million years, some scientists think human DNA has been around, or 3 million years dating back to Lucy of Ethiopia, or even 200,000 years since homo sapiens sapiens have been around, we never wore neck ties. Neck ties are not worn by productive people turning the gears of productivity on the planet. Only by the 'Big shots' that the productive people can do without. Of course, some folks like Mattias Desmet, whose ideas I fully support, do it out of societal habit to 'fit in'. But if there was ever a time to not 'fit in', that time is now.
Dear Meta Zetty,
Thanks for sending the link. It was very revealing and mind boggling. I have heard him speak on various panels but had not heard the entirety of was he had to say. Dr. Risch, who spoke at the Senator Johnson forum last week, said that he believed the virus was released for the reasons Mr Martin stated. A crime against humanity. Who will pay?
Glad if the link was helpful. Appreciate your feedback ~ and I agree completely about all the reprehensible crimes. Hard to imagine the scope and scale of the damage done, not to mention the additional constraints on our freedoms that may lie ahead.
Mattias Desmet, regarding totalitarianism and the Capitol.... What happened some years ago in the Capitol at the instigation of Trump (a fine example of leaders who surf along on the waves of what is alive among the followers, themselves getting blindsided and amplifying the waves), and what might now be a fine and justified illustration of part of your theories, was always a glaring omission in your book.
Perhaps in hindsight this is not so remarkable when we now also see that you allow yourself to be used by the same kind of people. Are you also surfing these waves now?
It's time to stop talking and start perp-walking these murderers into a courtroom to face a tribunal or a jury.
Nuremberg 2.0 where 'I was just obeying THE CONSENSUS' will not be accepted as a defense.
It is not money, but the need to publish papers, and to demonstrate things experimentally which is very hard to do at times, which largely drives replication crisis in psychology in my opinion.
My psychiatric training in the 1970s emphasized the power of the group process, mob, loss of individualism in group. Now suddenly relevant.
.. the words for better understanding .. are the same as at the very beginning of the evolution of speech .. poetry .. the connection between senses .. and awareness ..
Prof. Desmet, can I please ask with the greatest respect:
Is it possible that your theory around "mass formation" has gained so much publicity in recent years at least partially due to the fact that it serves a certain objective you may not have considered and more specifically: potentially serving as a 'legal out' of sort for politicians and 'public health' officials when the special tribunals and genocide/crimes against humanity charges are laid?
There have been plenty of dissenting voices from the very beginning but they were aggressively silenced...including by one of the people sitting right next to you at that table.
https://actionabletruth.substack.com/i/142054773/prof-mattias-desmet
This is definitely not meant as a personal attack against you by any means. It's simply voicing a concern which I think is valid.
It looks like Desmet doesn't interact with the hoi-poloi.
Yes, I think that is one of the dangers of emphasizing this aspect of the Corona crisis. This is the problem at heart of the issue between Breggins and Dr. Desmet.
Mass formation is one aspect, but one must also pay attention to the myriad connections, tricks and the profit involved in this disaster. One must pay attention to the sorry state the level of trust and transparency which modern societies have reached due technological and technical advances in manipulation techniques.
I have tried to reach out to Dr. Desmet to discuss this issue one way or the other, but so far I have not received a response, which is quite understandable, since he is a very busy man and I am nobody. In one way, what Dr. Desmet is saying is more important than any such analysis, and in some ways, it is much less important than that.
This is a concern that he addresses in his book and elsewhere. What makes the difference between those in the mass and those not in the mass per Mattias? One chooses to lie and the other does not. There is an ethical component and each person makes a decision. He has outlined this countless times.
The “legal out” position is certainly clever. Diabolical even. And that’s a fair point about “one of the people,” if I take your meaning. I’m not aware, but did the person take and promote the jab before speaking out against it? How should we respond to people who are guilty of judgment errors—if they are that—repent, and then commit to preventing others from making similar errors? Might an additional damage-by-influencer penalty due?
I saw your presentation .. also Ed Dowd
What an incredibly insightful & appropriate quote from Hannah Arendt to end another brilliant speech at our Senate. Bravo!
The delusional, if not evil, concept of a utopian paradise is often portrayed as a perfect society where everyone is blissfully content, every need is effortlessly met, and one is free from suffering. This hellish paradise of absolute perfection, where individuality fades into oblivion, produces human stagnation that smothers the soul in untold suffering, all under the oppressive control of a dear leader. The new breed of technocrats. In this suspiciously hellish paradise, there's an absence of choice, accountability, and the potential for growth, despite the seemingly perfect ideal AI would produce in stunning technicolor.
Perfect hell is a chilling reflection of the very thing we fear most: a world devoid of choice, risk, and the raw beauty of imperfection. In this unsettling parallel, paradise and hell converge, reminding those whose minds are still our own that true authenticity and fulfillment lie not in perfection, but in the messy, unpredictable journey of life.
I suggested to Professor Desmet a short while ago that maybe their should be a competition, then an award given for the best 'Mass Formationist' of all times. Along with this suggesting I offered a video link: https://www.bitchute.com/video/PWPVDzxplie0/ for his ajudication. Mattias hasn't gotten back to me yet, but if anyone here watches this 4:39 minute video, be sure to pipe up.
Phew…. Hard to believe, but it is documented on film. How such huge crowds of people could be so taken with one man is beyond me.
Thank you for responding. So, you are happy worshiping the religion and bowing down to the tribal god the descendant of the Israelis wrote into existence, the religious tradition and god that is genociding Palestinians at this moment?
I see that I completely misunderstood your intention in your post. I thought you were showing how hordes of people could be convinced to believe a lie. I am a bit mystified as to what message you really meant to portray by that video since it seems to be the opposite of what I understood it as.
I am also not sure how my response to a 4+ minute video of people heiling Hitler, even weeping and seemingly worshipping him, brought on your comment out of the blue when the video had nothing to do with religion or God or Israel.
Firstly, congratulations for watching that video and responding to it. My point in offering that link was to goad Mattias' listeners, hopefully maybe Mattias himself, to question if there is any difference between between a dictatorship such as Stalin's, and the dictatorship of Hitler over the German people. In other words, is it possible that some Mass Formations are good, and some bad.
After a long struggle, Hitler came to power in 1933; he just eeked his way in. In the second election, probably some of the content of the video, Hitler won 98% of the German people's vote. The 'invasion' of Austria was the only 'invasion' Hitler was injured in; he got a bad allergy from all the flowers the Austrian women were throwing at him, maybe even a scratch from a rose or two. He threw the Jews and the Rothschilds (Jews themselves) out of Austria also, and the country immediately began to prosper.
I've been studying all of this for about 5 years now and am convinced that we have been propagandized about Hitler and WWII as bad, if not worse, than we've been propagandized about Covid and the mRNA clot shot. Although there are many very excellent videos, articles and books about the revised history of the WWII era, my favorite is the docuseries Europa: The Last Battle (BitChute). It's a long watch, coming in 10 videos, but I was so intrigued with the issue, I watched the series twice. The upload count on BitChute when I first watched it was in the low hundreds. The upload count is up to 2,700+ today. Others, other than myself, are very intrigued with this subject. I consider this video series to be a million lumen spotlight on the exact source of all our problems today.
For the record, I am convinced that there is more to the “world wars” than we are told, but I am also convinced that Hitler was not a good guy. There are times when both sides are wrong/evil, and I see wwii as a prime example of that. The fact that America and Britain joined with Stalin undermines their credibility and reliability, if there weren’t already enough reasons to be suspicious of those governments. Just because one side is bad doesn’t mean the other side is good.
I do believe in the God who created the heavens and the earth and then Adam and Eve. He is not a tribal God, but the one true God.
The history in the Bible shows that despite Israel’s repeated shortcomings, God is faithful to keep His promises. We all fall short of God’s standard of goodness/righteousness. Thankfully God promised to send Messiah who will one day bring justice to the earth and who will rule from Jerusalem. God’s promises will be fulfilled. There will be justice, peace, and righteousness on this earth. There will be no more death, sorrow, pain.
I recommend two books:
the Bible, translated accurately (The Scriptures, translated by The Institute for Scripture Research is a good choice, as well as The Messianic Writings translated by Daniel Gruber)
The Separation of Church and Faith: Copernicus and the Jews by Daniel Gruber.
You, a Western person, are entrapped and ensnared within the anti-Nature Middle Eastern Abrahamic Matrix. Nature's God and Natural Law is what our Founders gave us, and it is the God and Law the Founding Fighters won this Land of the Free and Home of the Brave with.
I have been following the works of Professor Desmet from his early stages of his presentation on the phenomenon of, “Mass Formation Psychosis.” Best to consider this phenomenon in light of a historical real life experience. How many of you have asked yourself, “ how was it possible for Hitler to rise to power and eventually convince so many to partake in some of the most barbarous acts against mankind ? Draw a parallel between the periods of 1936 to 1939 in Hitler’s Germany and now, from 2020 to 2023 and Covid, Tony Fauci and Francis Collins…. Same modus operandi…
Surely the process has been around since the first used camel salesman came to town. From a position of authority or with a little credibility, deliver a sales pitch with conviction, and somebody will buy whatever’s being sold. Weaponize technology with ignorance or immorality, and some snake oil salesman will commit genocide. Nothing is new under the sun, and caveat emptor has been the bottom line since antiquity.
Ron Johnson was the one who had the honor of citizens speaking the truth to him.
Politicians are not honorable people and thus is is not an honor to speak to them. Nor a privilege. They're public servants, not the other way around.