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Marvellous that you brought this up.

>>>"The signing of the Declaration of Independence by the 56 Founders in 1776, did what no other document in history accomplished - it de facto made INDIVIDUALS SOVEREIGN - meaning self-ruled; and concomitantly self RESPONSIBLE. Prior to the Signing, the colonists in the New World were SUBJECTS to the Crown of England.*" <<<

Fully AGREE - well PARTIALLY ....

"Everyone" (including me) who needs a "piece of paper" to "stand" on has already forfeited HIS SOVEREIGNTY given by THE BIRTH OF THE HUMAN MIND the individual existence (human being) represents. It is less crazy than it sounds, at least in my mind! Let me explain:

ALL EXISTENCES (physical elements, micro-organisms, stars, plants, animals, human beings) come from where? - ....... FROM THE VOID - GOD ALMIGHTY

Assuming human beings are very special according to the perception of THE HUMAN MIND. THE HUMAN MIND (in capitals to highlight the importance of it) being described as the tool/ perceptive system GOD ALMIGHTY created out of HIMSELF/NOTHING to have access to HIS OWN CREATION. HE being THE VOID/NON DUAL "ENTITY" "OUT OF" which/whom "THROUGH" which/whom and "FOR" which/whom ALL CREATION has been created. The veil being between MATTER/THE VOID (non matter) - let me call it the quantum physical barrier that "devides" (perceptually) DUALITY (THE HUMAN MIND) from GOD ALMIGHTY.

Detour:

There is a in my opinion marvellous (apparently Jewish) riddle about GOD ALMIGHTY.

What does THE OMNISCIENT, OMNIPRESENT, OMNIPOTENT GOD ALMIGHTY lack? -

THE BLIND - LIMITATION of course ...!

EVERYONE ELSE - NOTHING!

Happy to hear from anyone wanting to let me know with which answer one agrees and why. BTW - There is NO RIGHT and WRONG as with EVERYTHING pertaining to GOD ALMIGHTY ...

Back to the actual topic:

The barrier THE HUMAN MIND perceives THE HUMAN MIND has it "constructed" out of its own DEFICIENCY/ DELUSION which is based on its lack of FAITH IN GOD ALMIGHTY. How?

THE TEMPLE - the human body - of GOD ALMIGHTY is being created and functions during its "time of service" without any "interference" of THE HUMAN MIND. Everyone who doesn't believe should ask himself/herself the question: How much authority does THE HUMAN MIND have over the next breath it witnesses, the next thought it witnesses .....

THE HUMAN MIND in contrast, arises out of THE TEMPLE that comes out of the womb of the mother without being aware of itself. THE HUMAN MIND is "born" (coming into existence - equally without any contribution of its "own" but BY THE GRACE OF THE SOVEREIGN) after THE STAGE has been set by HIM - GOD ALMIGHTY - THE ONE AND ONLY SOVEREIGN. Now as THE LIGHT (OF CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE HUMAN MIND) enters THE WORLD created by THE SOVEREIGN (equally mysteriously as the CREATION of THE TEMPLE) - switching it on - coming into existence so to speak. Depending on the "upbringing" , the initial setup .......... - no amount of qualifiers will do so subsume it under DEPENDING ON THE WILL OF THE SOVEREIGN - of HIS CREATION HIS CREATION will follow HIS WORD - THE HOLY SPIRIT - or THE WORLD - THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN. The latter representing all "knowledge" ever created by THE SOVEREIGN through HIS CREATION and/or defined as relevant by the worldly power - THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN. And everyone following the worldly power - THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN - whether being it a monarch, a priest, a "scientist", a piece of paper, FIAT CURRENCY .... - instead of THE HOLY SPIRIT IS BUILDING HIS HOUSE ON QUICKSAND NOT ON TOP OF THE ROCK - THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.

How is it that I cannot count on worldly power? one would ask.

Very simple - once THE HUMAN MIND realises one simple fact. Who is going to enforce all those WORLDLY truths/contracts. The monarchs army/misconceptions about THE TRUTH - the priests appearance/misconceptions about THE TRUTH ......

... and so it is with the constitution. If there is nobody who is going to enforce it if he/she DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE ONE AND ONLY SOVEREIGN. HE IS THE ONE AND ONLY "DEFENDER" OF THE TRUTH because HE IS THE TRUTH - THE CREATOR OF EVERYTHING.

As it now happens that there is such a thing as the constitution and many "believe" in the validity and righteousness of it BUT "nobody" is defending it maybe it is THE SIGN that it was not written in THE HOLY SPIRIT but in THE SPIRIT OF THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN (worldly power) so another fraction of THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN (worldly power) has been able to pervert it or even replace it .....

(look up THE ACT OF 1871 and all its consequences - I would have to go deep into law, economics and finance to explain its ramifications which I might do at a later point)

... in essence EVERY HUMAN MIND placing bets with worldly powers plays the game the worldly power in "charge" has put forward. The ONLY OPTION of SOVEREIGNTY doesn't lie in the hands of worldly powers .... BUT WITH THE CREATOR OF ALL EXISTENCE ONLY.

As the apostle PAUL said so concisely:

1Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2“Honor your father and mother”—which is the first commandment with a promise— 3“so that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.”

4Fathers, b do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.

5Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.

9And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

The Armor of God

10Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12For our struggle is NOT against FLESH and BLOOD, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

18And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. 19Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel, 20for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may declare it fearlessly, as I should.

Final Greetings

21Tychicus, the dear brother and faithful servant in the Lord, will tell you everything, so that you also may know how I am and what I am doing. 22I am sending him to you for this very purpose, that you may know how we are, and that he may encourage you.

23Peace to the brothers and sisters, c and love with faith from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 24Grace to all who love our Lord Jesus Christ with an undying love.

Eph 6

TAKE REFUGE IN HIM!

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Tom Daniel's avatar

If you have actually READ the Declaration, there is NO doubt the Founders viewed God Almighty as being omnipotent - the Creator of ALL things.

There is a BIG difference between individual sovereignty over our earthly (mortal) physical bodies and that of God Almighty's sovereignty over His creations...including our souls.

God gave us - His children - "FREE WILL" - which without the influence of SATAN, no doubt would have resulted in a true brotherhood and love for one another from the beginning.

But, being that God Almighty CREATED his other Heavenly spirit son (Satan), ENVY, bloodshed, murder, hubris, hegemony, mendacity, and ALL the ungodly, ugly, actions by His children in their earthly, physical form have been ongoing 24/7/365 since the days of Able and Cain...BECAUSE of SATAN - that permeates all (5) of our physical senses and infests our brain matter with NEGATIVE electrical IMPULSES.

Aside of my DAILY prayer to my Heavenly Father to return to Earth ( along with my Brother- Jesus Christ ) and KICK ASS, I ask WHY did God Almighty create SATAN in the first place.

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>>God gave us - His children - "FREE WILL" - which without the influence of SATAN, no doubt would have resulted in a true brotherhood and love for one another from the beginning.<<

That is entirely incorrect. Did you not read where the Good Book said that sin does NOT come from outside, but only inside? This is why Agape God can't be tempted -- sin Agape literally does not exist inside Him! Satan brought nothing out of Adam and Eve that didn't already exist in them, and it is true of all of us as well.

However, Lucifer does an excellent job as an "accelerant" that speeds up the process through which our sin Agape is revealed outwardly.

You can't work on your own sin Agape until you admit YOU have sin Agape.

It is Lucifer that wants to blind you to your sin Agape.

>>But, being that God Almighty CREATED his other Heavenly spirit son (Satan),<<

No, God created an amazing being called Lucifer who was incredible in every way. This being flipped at some point, and turned into something very different. Agape God did NOT create him that way. God knows how long it took for the mighty Agape Lucifer to become the lowly sin Agape serpent...

>>ENVY, bloodshed, murder, hubris, hegemony, mendacity, and ALL the ungodly, ugly, actions by His children in their earthly, physical form have been ongoing 24/7/365 since the days of Able and Cain...BECAUSE of SATAN - that permeates all (5) of our physical senses and infests our brain matter with NEGATIVE electrical IMPULSES.<<

Uh, no. Stop projecting. Sin comes from within. Lucifer can't manipulate what doesn't already exist, just like a mirror can't reflect what doesn't exist.

Mark 7:

14Once again Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, “All of you, listen to Me and understand: 15Nothing that enters a man from the outside can defile him; but the things that come out of a man, these are what defile him.”h

17After Jesus had left the crowd and gone into the house, His disciples inquired about the parable.

18“Are you still so dull?” He asked. “Do you not understand? Nothing that enters a man from the outside can defile him, 19because it does not enter his heart, but it goes into the stomach and then is eliminated.” (Thus all foods are clean.)i

20He continued: “What comes out of a man, that is what defiles him. 21For from within the hearts of men come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery,j 22greed, wickedness, deceit, debauchery, envy, slander, arrogance, and foolishness. 23All these evils come from within, and these are what defile a man.”

I suspect you will try and make the key knowledge expressed there null and void, so here is another angle on it...

James 1:

13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone. 14But each one is tempted when by his own evil desires he is lured away and enticed. 15Then after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.

16Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers. 17Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, with whom there is no change or shifting shadow.b 18He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we would be a kind of firstfruits of His creation.c

Key --> "But each one is tempted when by his own evil desires he is lured away and enticed."

Satan can't cause you to sin anymore than God can... All Satan can do is reveal what is ALREADY INSIDE YOU. For example, Satan can't make you want to grab a spoon and eat some dog crap. Why? The desire to eat dog crap ISN'T INSIDE YOU! Plain and simple.

Not just you, everyone!

>>Aside of my DAILY prayer to my Heavenly Father to return to Earth ( along with my Brother- Jesus Christ ) and KICK ASS,<<

That will be a great day when Jesus returns to Earth to set up the Kingdom of Heaven (Kingdom of God -- same thing, different name) here on Earth.

Then, the meek truly will inherit the Earth and God's Will will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven, exactly as the Bible says!

>>I ask WHY did God Almighty create SATAN in the first place.<<

He didn't create Satan, he created Lucifer -- the bringer of light... the bringer of Agape... God's vice president and supreme angel. That is what Agape God created. But Lucifer became perverted and perverted other angels.

I believe the fall of Lucifer and many angels may be Agape God's biggest regret, if that is the right word, to date.

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One Existence's avatar

Two simple questions for a start

1. Could you point me to the passage where JESUS CHRIST THE ONE AND ONLY SAVIOUR OF HIS CHILDREN - not the one's of THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN, the DEATH CULT - has asked to "kick ass" as it has been expressed in your comment?

2. When and where were HIS CHILDREN expelled? - CAIN & ABEL are surely not the ROOT CAUSE

I am absolutely serious ....

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>>has asked to "kick ass"<<

2 Thess 2:

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Verse 8 sure sounds like an "ass kicking" to me! :-)

BTW, I believe it is highly likely the "man of lawlessness" is revealing himself right now -- at least to those who know how to look for it.

How? THROUGH THAT WHICH HE IS FINANCING INTO SOCIETY!

^^^ Men can be women, children can get sex changes, rusty metallic iron filings are good for us, toxic juice that doesn't work must be mandated, men can play in women's sports... etc...

All LAWLESSNESS BEING REVEALED to all!

WHO?

WHO controls the global money power systems that finance the beast Empire system?

WHO is represented by the WOMAN that rides upon the beast empire system and WHO "fornicates" with all nations through their control of the global monetary systems?

Well, adding it all up, WHO controls the woman who is doing all those things, because the "woman" gets thrown under the bus per Revelations.

Read Psalms 2 for a hint... it is in the first few verse.

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One Existence's avatar

I believe we are in NO DISAGREEMENT about the symptoms you summarised once again. For the sake of avoiding misunderstanding there is nothing wrong with pointing it out again and again. Not even regarding our "disagreements" which are more a question of semantics - which is not by any means an unimportant matter, actually it is THE FIRST PRINCIPLE OF THE LOGOS, as no "understanding" is possible without understanding the meaning of words, which by its explicitness it is always going to have it "shortcomings" to describe, forget about explain, THE ETERNAL - and LEVEL of analysis.

All the WHO questions stated above are "more than valid" BUT they are simply a "starting point" in order to go much "deeper". Carl Jung jumps to mind as the the most prominent, because widely read and cited, scholar regarding "heaven and hell". For me it has been much more fruitful to look at every thought and idea from every walk of life and keeping an open mind regarding ALL HIS CONNECTIONS within HIS CREATION. The latest although not completely new was a conversation of Iain McGilchrist on YT having a CONVERSATION on UnHerd .... you should tune into his thoughts and ideas!

What a journey it has been so far. Not least our ongoing "conversation" of late. I haven't "looked for it". It just happened and to my estimation to no little avail ....

>>> Verse 8 sure sounds like an "ass kicking" to me! :-) >>>

Of course it "sounds" very clear and yet again it is SEMANTICS based ON CONTEXT that matter. What does this "kicking" truly mean. To put it in context I would pull up

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. " Mt 7 , 1-3

For me it CERTAINLY does NOT MEAN that GOD ALMIGHTY - as the ULTIMATE SOURCE OF ALL EXISTENCE - is "kicking out" ANY OF HIS CREATIONS "prematurely". There are HIS RULES and ANY OF HIS CREATIONS turning around having realised, accepted and repented one's mistakes, usually after having been "beaten up" to the core - THE HUMAN (MIND) does this to itself by NOT ACCEPTING HIS RULES - is GOING TO BE ACCEPTED as if NOTHING HAD HAPPENED as HE IS THE CREATOR OF SPACE AND TIME, so "turning back time" FOR HIM is as easy as restarting a video game for THE HUMAN (MIND).

Talking about "kicking ass" is rather the self-inflicted incapability of acting according to HIS RULES - by worshipping in THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN - running after worldly PRIDE, POWER AND MATERIAL BENEFIT and all secondary ailments that come with it.

THE SEVEN PRINCES OF HELL are only waiting to devour everyone who is not LOOKING FOR SALVATION THROUGH THE ONE AND ONLY SHEPHERD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST having overcome THE SIN OF THE FLESH!

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>>it is THE FIRST PRINCIPLE OF THE LOGOS, as no "understanding" is possible without understanding the meaning of words, which by its explicitness it is always going to have it "shortcomings" to describe, forget about explain, THE ETERNAL - and LEVEL of analysis.<<

Which is why it is so important for two communicators to both value and pursue the truth, and nothing else! In this situation, two people can work out any apparent contradictions through communication. I *highly* recommend the book Thank You for Arguing. Arguing has been an exercise in discerning TRUTH historically, but has turned into selfish fighting in the modern era. It ought not be so. Arguing should be a Socratic and truth seeking and sharing exercise! :-)

Fighting is what most people call "arguing." They are very different things. Society is much worse off because we don't argue with integrity to test our beliefs and pursue truth.

>>All the WHO questions stated above are "more than valid" BUT they are simply a "starting point" in order to go much "deeper". Carl Jung jumps to mind as the the most prominent, because widely read and cited, scholar regarding "heaven and hell". For me it has been much more fruitful to look at every thought and idea from every walk of life and keeping an open mind regarding ALL HIS CONNECTIONS within HIS CREATION. The latest although not completely new was a conversation of Iain McGilchrist on YT having a CONVERSATION on UnHerd .... you should tune into his thoughts and ideas!<<

I will check it out. I will also point out that "heaven and hell" are almost always used in a way that is a false dichotomy. If Satan can keep us from asking the right questions, he need not care about what our answers are! Hell is hades, which means the grave. Potatoes are buried in hades, aka, hell. Heaven is NOT the reward of the saved. The reward of the saved is not some resort LOCATION, rather, it is a personally responsible, personally accountable, STATE OF AGAPE-CENTERED BEING. The latter is LOST when everyone is selfishly focused on getting a ticket to a resort destination (and many relishing the perceived torture of those they don't like! Talk about twisted!)

>>What a journey it has been so far. Not least our ongoing "conversation" of late. I haven't "looked for it". It just happened and to my estimation to no little avail ....<<

I'm enjoying our truth seeking, and I like it when people are very technical and force me to really dig into the detail of what I'm communicating and expose when I over-generalize in comments. You do that well, and I'm better for it. I hope I return the favor so we both can "sharpen our Agape Swords."

>>Of course it "sounds" very clear and yet again it is SEMANTICS based ON CONTEXT that matter. What does this "kicking" truly mean. To put it in context I would pull up

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. " Mt 7 , 1-3

For me it CERTAINLY does NOT MEAN that GOD ALMIGHTY - as the ULTIMATE SOURCE OF ALL EXISTENCE - is "kicking out" ANY OF HIS CREATIONS "prematurely". There are HIS RULES and ANY OF HIS CREATIONS turning around having realised, accepted and repented one's mistakes, usually after having been "beaten up" to the core - THE HUMAN (MIND) does this to itself by NOT ACCEPTING HIS RULES - is GOING TO BE ACCEPTED as if NOTHING HAD HAPPENED as HE IS THE CREATOR OF SPACE AND TIME, so "turning back time" FOR HIM is as easy as restarting a video game for THE HUMAN (MIND).<<

There you go -- deploying nuance, true nuance, to a hyper-level, and I love it!

You are exactly correct at the Agape-level of consciousness.

This is NOT about people.

It is about SPIRITS -- sin Agape vs. Agape.

Any old thug can kick ass on someone.

Agape God will kick ass on the sin Agape spirit of narcissism, but will, in almost all cases, EDUCATE EVEN ITS WORST OFFENDERS INTO REPENTANCE AND COMMITMENT TO AGAPE!

That nuance is the SIGNAL which gets lost in the over-generalized kick ass reference. It is literally the most important aspect.

>>Talking about "kicking ass" is rather the self-inflicted incapability of acting according to HIS RULES - by worshipping in THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN - running after worldly PRIDE, POWER AND MATERIAL BENEFIT and all secondary ailments that come with it.<<

And this is true as well. Self-inflicted "ass-kicking" is absolutely the norm, and not just for the anti-christ caricature, but for ordinary people all the world over... myself absolutely included.

Our focus is absolutely better placed upon our own self-inflicted ass-kickings with humble appreciation for Agape God's eventual extinction of sin-Agape from Earth, while expressing Agape to all involved by saving those who repent and putting down those who refuse to commit to Agape.

>>THE SEVEN PRINCES OF HELL are only waiting to devour everyone who is not LOOKING FOR SALVATION THROUGH THE ONE AND ONLY SHEPHERD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST having overcome THE SIN OF THE FLESH!<<

The grave will consume all who do not repent towards Agape and receive full payment of their death penalty state through the blood of Christ, their Creator -- absolutely.

I'm not sure what the "seven princes of hell" refer to, though.

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>>>"Which is why it is so important for two communicators to both value and pursue the truth, ..."

NO DISAGREEMENT including the part that follows in your statement - BUT for this REALLY to happen one has to "GIVE UP" everything worldly ...

"20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Mt 18, 20

"6Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really know me, you will know b my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” John 14, 6-7

How this happens is the REAL MYSTERY in the reason for the statement "by faith you are saved". Without FAITH - and not only in this context but in general - NO EXISTENCE is possible not even for the so called "atheists" and ELITES. The only difference being on group admits it and the other one not. Making up stories calling it evidence and thereby entering into the realm of THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN.

OUR ongoing EXCHANGE is in and of itself THE TESTIMONY to itself!

>>>"Agape God will kick ass on the sin Agape spirit of narcissism, but will, in almost all cases, EDUCATE EVEN ITS WORST OFFENDERS INTO REPENTANCE AND COMMITMENT TO AGAPE!"<<<

NO HE WILL PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON THE DARKNESS OF SIN AGAPE AND ("be as wise as serpents and as gentle as doves")

a. THE HELL is going to be scared out of him/her - realising the darkness one was existing in and repent and be forgiven - HAVING FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST

b. THE HELL is going to be scared out of him/her - realising the "damage" and moving towards "damage control" based on its PRIDE ARROGANCE AND HUBRIS and as a consequence not being forgiven till relinquishing AUTHORITY where it belongs - TO JESUS CHRIST

And I would even argue that there MUST BE at least one more level underneath it. BECAUSE how on earth could ANY HUMAN MIND "programme" itself into the state of AGAPE/SIN AGAPE. This is beyond weird!

SEVEN PRINCES OF HELL - seems to me quite important as "the gatekeepers" of GOD ALMIGHTY. Never mind if we use the same understanding of "it", but in general terms it seems very much unavoidable that the "flesh" is the platform based on which AGAPE is realised by GOD ALMIGHTY. I stumbled upon it by accident based on which I shortly after it, without much "thinking" about it, realised how crucial this idea is. Crucial in the sense of my understanding - going through the seven deadly sins. And it does not end there it goes on and on ... as long as THE HUMAN MIND does not close the chapter - by claiming "now I know" - like always!

Let me expand on it a bit. No body-no limits-no opposites-no experience-NO LIFE just GOD ALMIGHTY in PURE ESSENCE! No HUMAN MIND would argue that one can really appreciate anything if one does not have ANY IDEA - which doesn't mean it has to be personal experience - about "the thing" or at least the opposite the exchange is dealing with. I remember having mentioned this before. How does one KNOW/ have any idea what honey is? Only by having tasted it. How does one have any idea if someone talks about LOVE?

As a consequence having everything in abundance - food, shelter, love, companionship, truth ....- and having "lack" of those experiences - based on the "LIMITED" TEMPLE HE CREATED and everything that is based upon its boundaries - are the prerequisites of HIS PROCESS. Like an oscillating pendulum - Those who are going "through the wide gate" and travelling on "the broad road" are going way off into the "flesh" ending up in THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN not believing in anything but THE WORLD and thereby being on the highway towards DESTRUCTION and DEATH!

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>>>"Which is why it is so important for two communicators to both value and pursue the truth, ..."

NO DISAGREEMENT including the part that follows in your statement - BUT for this REALLY to happen one has to "GIVE UP" everything worldly ...<<

Agree. 100%. And therein lies the prime challenge for us mortals... we are here to align with Agape so tightly that we literally kill our carnal, natural nature... ideally. We all fall short... sin and all that. But we should be fighting! Empire wants to rust out our energy generators (think Star Wars and the taking out of the "cell" looking Death Star by blowing up its generator...) so we become demoralized and lose our Agape "mojo."

>>"20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Mt 18, 20

"6Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really know me, you will know b my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” John 14, 6-7<<

Jesus is Agape, Agape is the way, Agape is the truth, and Agape is life. Of course, the Father is Agape as well.

>>How this happens is the REAL MYSTERY in the reason for the statement "by faith you are saved". Without FAITH - and not only in this context but in general - NO EXISTENCE is possible not even for the so called "atheists" and ELITES. The only difference being on group admits it and the other one not. Making up stories calling it evidence and thereby entering into the realm of THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN.<<

I presume you mean eternal existence when you say "existence." That's correct.

Consider if you want to use the term "synagogue of Satan" because that ties Satan to the Jewish religion, and Satan is truly all pervasive. He doesn't chill just in synagogues, his spirit is in every other Empire religious system, too!

>>OUR ongoing EXCHANGE is in and of itself THE TESTIMONY to itself!<<

For those with eyes to see. All four of them, including us. lol

>>NO HE WILL PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON THE DARKNESS OF SIN AGAPE AND ("be as wise as serpents and as gentle as doves")

a. THE HELL is going to be scared out of him/her - realising the darkness one was existing in and repent and be forgiven - HAVING FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST

b. THE HELL is going to be scared out of him/her - realising the "damage" and moving towards "damage control" based on its PRIDE ARROGANCE AND HUBRIS and as a consequence not being forgiven till relinquishing AUTHORITY where it belongs - TO JESUS CHRIST

And I would even argue that there MUST BE at least one more level underneath it. BECAUSE how on earth could ANY HUMAN MIND "programme" itself into the state of AGAPE/SIN AGAPE. This is beyond weird!<<

Why did you say "no" when you went on to explain key steps in God's education process? ;-)

I would also point to Ezekiel 37 as God's blueprint for salvation for all people... and part of his education process as well.

>>SEVEN PRINCES OF HELL - seems to me quite important as "the gatekeepers" of GOD ALMIGHTY. Never mind if we use the same understanding of "it", but in general terms it seems very much unavoidable that the "flesh" is the platform based on which AGAPE is realised by GOD ALMIGHTY. I stumbled upon it by accident based on which I shortly after it, without much "thinking" about it, realised how crucial this idea is. Crucial in the sense of my understanding - going through the seven deadly sins. And it does not end there it goes on and on ... as long as THE HUMAN MIND does not close the chapter - by claiming "now I know" - like always!<<

I look at it like this -- Lucifer and the angels were created with no concept of sin Agape. God is Agape, it is His very Essence and Being. I argue it is actually His Value, and I believe He would Cosign what some might consider blasphemy. I'm PRINCIPLES focused, not PERSON focused. Would God be God if His character were of Lucifer? I argue no -- even if everything else is the same! The value is in Agape itself, and it is reflected in God's instant death penalty for sin Agape. It is a harsh punishment for a reason!

Anyways, Lucifer turned to the dark side, and so did a number of angels, perhaps as many as 1/3 of them.

OK, let's recap that disaster... create beings who don't know sin Agape sucks and bad things happened.

Learn from the mistake... create new mortal beings and allow them to choose sin Agape and reap the horse pucky that it will brings. Let this process run for a time, call time out at some point (set up the Kingdom of God), open their eyes (Ezekiel 37), and educate them as to how horrible sin Agape was and offer THE AGAPE SOLUTION.

That narrative is very logical, but it is developed off of very limited information.

>>Let me expand on it a bit. No body-no limits-no opposites-no experience-NO LIFE just GOD ALMIGHTY in PURE ESSENCE!<<

Ultimate Agape in the Ultimate Spirit Being!

>>No HUMAN MIND would argue that one can really appreciate anything if one does not have ANY IDEA - which doesn't mean it has to be personal experience - about "the thing" or at least the opposite the exchange is dealing with. I remember having mentioned this before. How does one KNOW/ have any idea what honey is? Only by having tasted it. How does one have any idea if someone talks about LOVE?<<

Or, worse yet, deceived into thinking something toxic is "love" (both giving and receiving) -- a sin Agape special.

>>As a consequence having everything in abundance - food, shelter, love, companionship, truth ....- and having "lack" of the experiences mentioned above are the prerequisites of HIS PROCESS.<<

God's Plan B process. He outlines Plan A in Genesis -- listen to me and don't eat of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is Plan A. But, yes, Plan B absolutely is part of God's Plan -- the B part. ;-) My only point here is that God is completely separate from the sin Agape... He really is separate from it. He allows others to partake for their ultimate benefit (don't pull a Satan because of lack of knowledge as to what sin Agape is), but He's distinct from it -- completely. The cesspool is ours, but allowed by God for sure, and for an Agape reason.

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I think that Agape God has done the calculus such that all marginal evil done on this Earth has an eternal benefit associated with it. IOW, there literally may not be any superfluous evil... it ALL gets flipped to maximizing Agape down the road.

>>Like an oscillating pendulum which going "through the wide gate" and travelling on "the broad road" is going way off into the "flesh" ending up in THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN not believing in anything but THE WORLD and thereby being on the highway towards DESTRUCTION and DEATH!<<

This is where deceit and beautiful lies come in. I understand the Big Bad humans better than their mass of victims. I understand why the Big Bad do what they do, and it is rational in a carnal, dog-eat-dog, survival-of-the-fittest way. I disagree with it, but I understand it.

But the masses literally embrace the beautiful lies and race towards their own destruction!

And they love it so much they will fight for it!

I've concluded one of the Lessons of the Ages is that sin Agape makes people "stooopit," and this milieu will be used as evidence to prove that case beyond all doubt.

Why? So Agape can be correctly seen as the ONLY path that prevents "stoooopit."

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